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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.10.15 19:32:26 -
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No no...NO. Please don't. Just don't.
Buying and selling skill points? Cheapen and reduce the entire skill training and character development process to nothing more than tradable tokens? Why not just abolish skills entirely and make every character fully trained and alike from creation?
Skill levels and their training is not only a measurement of character's abilities and power, it's also a means to give trainees something to look forward to, a sense of accomplishment when they reach it, require some planning and making some choices from day one. Making skills tradable throws most of that away. It makes skills seems much less valuable if you can just create a new character, throw some $$$ at it and you're done.
I was never super excited about the character bazaar but it was tolerable, slicing up characters and selling it as pieces is most definitely not. I can also live with the ability of trading characters using an in game interface while giving the buyer the ability to rename it, but that is as far as I think it should go.
And yes, older characters who gained their skills the old fashioned way by logging in every day and adjusting their queues should be rightfully pissed if this idiocy ever finds its way to the live servers.
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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.10.15 22:50:04 -
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Hashtag Rare Pepe wrote:2 types of people in this thread:
1/"Boohoo Boohoo! I won't be special anymurr even if I packed millions of sp while doing L4 in high sec."
2/"Nice I will be able to do pvp and be useful without having to wait more than 1 year before hopping into a Tengu."
Choose your side.
3. People who write knee jerk mocking 2 liner comments without actually reading, let alone trying to understand the presented and often well written arguments...
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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.10.15 23:18:38 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Ignorance of reality? The reality is I will never sell my character to anyone else. Therefore it is not a commodity and never will be which makes it as unique as a character can be. It is 'special' in so far as it is mine and only mine. Whatever anyone else does with their characters is entirely up to them. Then this change is of no consequence to you and harms you in no way. Those that don't use it and chose not to commodify their characters or SP can train as normal. I have no intent to use the feature, all the characters I would use it on have horrible return potential, but I see no reason to deny others.
This is not a single player game, it's a multiplayer sandbox game, every action and reaction directly or indirectly effects something else, that's the whole point and the beauty of it.
Otherwise you can claim that we shouldn't mind people exploiting bugs to gain ISK, botting or doing RMT, because "it doesn't directly harm them in any way".
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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.10.15 23:37:03 -
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I really don't understand the "You already have character bazaar, why do you mind so much making it more accessible, blunt, abusable, exploitable and with less consequences?" argument.
So if I think that the character bazaar is a bad idea but I am willing to live with it because it's been there forever and is pretty much status quo then I should now be willing to just accept any fundamental change in this game aspect with open arms?
That's a rather ridiculous argument.
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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2015.10.15 23:50:24 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Draugo Rana wrote:
I really don't understand the "You already have character bazaar, why do you mind so much making it more accessible, blunt, abusable, exploitable and with less consequences?" argument.
So if I think that the character bazaar is a bad idea but I am willing to live with it because it's been there forever and is pretty much status quo then I should now be willing to just accept any fundamental change in this game aspect with open arms?
That's a rather ridiculous argument.
How is it more abusable? Is having the ability to accrue SP faster really an abuse/exploit? Also what consequence is missing?
The consequence that when you buy a character from the bazaar you need to live with that character's skill allocation, reputation, history, name, appearance. That was a trade off you had to deal with. I never liked that possibility to do this but at least it has these consequences.
And people in this thread already started to point out various ways this system can be abused and I am sure this is just the tip of the iceberg. Because yes, what can possible go wrong when modifying such a core system and letting everyone just move skills back and forth at whim?
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Draugo Rana
Masuat'aa Matari
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Posted - 2015.10.16 00:04:18 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Menkary Hardluck wrote:Oh God, no. Please no. Training up a character is supposed to be hard. The choices you make in training are not supposed to be easy. It is supposed to be something you have to very carefully plan. I don't want to see EVE as pay-to-win. Another player ignorant of the character bazaar.
Another player who can't be bothered to actually read some of the previous responses addressing the point why the existence of a character bazaar is not really an excuse to making things worse.
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